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Hey, anyone notice a difference between the new hardwood cleaner (blue) vs the old in the results dept? I just received my first bottle of the new stuff and noticed the mixing ratio is different by quite a bit. This new bottle won’t last near as long as the old one, so I’m hoping the results are at least a little bit better to cover the cost difference. Otherwise, I have to question the reasoning behind this change.
Not a real fan of the blue cleaner, I feel it doesn’t make a noticeable difference when the job is done. I prefer the brown cleaner, I clean the whole floor with it [ 6 oz to a gal] and buff it to a shine, not just a lite spray like corps video. Way back when I asked Cody (R.I.P.) if it I could explore some different wood cleaning products which he gave me the ok, I found a cleaner similar to the brown cleaner, I say similar because it seams somethings missing. It looks the same, smells the same but but does not
shine the same somethings definitely missing. I don’t know if the product is old or its a different product line or different company. That being said, I’m still using the brown cleaner until corp comes up with something better. Anyway i would like to have a system similar to Stanley Steamer. the machine looks similar to our original tile cleaning machine. I don’t remember if it had squeegees. It looks like their using maybe a multi surface maintainer type product and our brown floor cleaner (which their calling a Shine and Sealer) and getting 50 bucks more per room for using it and putting on a nice show for the customer. I think the Tennent T-1 or something smaller would be nice. A machine like the T-1 could be used on wood, lite tile cleaning, VCT vinyl, etc.
I agree the blue cleaner does not do as good job. I find I have to dramatically lower expectations and ensure the customer understands what the end result will be. Personally, I like the Boston Polish the best. it always produced a clean shine but I didn’t like the process of using the large steel wool pads
I have only ever used the blue hardwood cleaner (only been with HB 3 years). I was also unimpressed with the results, and I rarely push this service for customers. When I do have customers insist on hardwood cleaning, here’s what my crew does:
1. Vacuum area
2. Lightly spray 101 and buff with white or woven turf pad to remove soil
3. Mist blue hardwood cleaner (mixed 1:4) onto floor and spread with microfiber mop
4. Wait to dry fully (10-15 minutes)
5. Polish with white or red pad. Work slowly into and back out of the room
6. As a final step I spray multisurface maintainer and spread with a fresh microfiber mop. This step removes any swirls and leaves the floors looking a bit “shinier”Mark, Reuben Give the brown wood cleaner a try with the white polishing pad on wood, pergo,laminates. It should make a difference. Shame we cant use wax an shine on finished wood floors i use wax an shine on very dull pergo and vinyl. About 2 yrs ago i used it on my own floors my wife loved and it and it holds up. So far i have used it on 5 jobs at 1.00 a square foot 75.00 min as an add on service while in the home Mind you the floors i have used it on were def on their last leg with amazing results. and the cust all love it i asked John last year to ask the manufacturer if it could be used. since then i forgot all about it. think ill give big john a call. There has to be something out there we can use like W an S. I think STANLEY Steemer is using something like it but i cant find out what there using.
I should clarify my post a bit – I left an important part out. I WAS unimpressed, until we started using the process I described above. That gets us much better results and my customers are always happy with it.
That said, I still hesitate to clean hardwood floors that are already in good shape. I’m afraid even the white pad is going to scratch them.
Ok, so far my techs think the blue stuff is easier to use vs the brown, and results are fairly similar. The brown cleaner would be tacky in some fashion if it wasn’t completely dry and you could leave footprints behind if you had to walk on it for some reason. The blue stuff doesn’t have this issue. We have found that after dry mopping the floor, misting the floor with some 101 and running the buffer with both a blue microfiber pad and a white buffing pad over the floor prior to the wood cleaner process helps eliminate any swirls (remaining dirt?) during the final wood cleaning process. Originally, we would just run the white pad over the floor, not both, but the swirls aren’t part of the wood, so we think they have to be soil/oil/wax of some kind. Obviously wax (i.e. mop’n glow) may not be removed by the cleaning completely, so any swirling that might be due to that is a whole different story. Just my 2 cents so far.
I have started using the multi surface maintainer as my pre cleaner on all hard surface jobs. It doesn’t seem to be as tacky as 101 and other cleaners are. I obviously don’t clean enough wood floors, as I haven’t even seen the blue stuff yet. I still have a couple bottles of brown to work through. P.S. Don’t accidentally mistake a engineered floor for real hardwood and use butchers wax. It is impossible to get shiny and a pain to get back off the floor
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