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    Anonymous
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    Hi all,

    I was looking through some of the old posts but could not find much feedback or advise on the new non wax system. I am having a hard time getting great results from using the white or red polishing pads. The floors do not seem to shine to the clients expectations, I vacuum, apply wood floor cleaner, mop, wait until dry and then buff, but no matter how much I buff they never seem to come to noticeably better shine. Most of the floors are similar to the prefinished “Bruce brand” hardwood floors. Any help or suggestions will be greatly appreciated.

    Stefan and Sherry

    #155782
    Anonymous
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    We always do a very light spray of 101 and run over the floor with as many thin white pads as needed to pull some of the dirt out of the floor first before we apply the wood floor cleaner. You show these pads to the customers, and the shine (or lack there of) won’t be as big of a factor because they will see the dirt that you are getting out. I always tell customers our wood floor cleaning is better than what they can do with “home products”, but not going to be anything near what refinishing the floor will do to the appearance. The floor will be cleaner, but scratches will still exist and so will wear. I tell them it will add a little shine, but not a whole lot (underpromise, overdeliver).

    #155783
    Anonymous
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    Hi Dave! It’s been 10 years…WOW…hope you’re well!

    Dan & I are quoting a bar today…100 year old floors with lots of crud on them..but Dan easily wipes through the blackest with just a wet rag. How would you proceed on a job like that..same as above? Light 101 spray and thin white pads?? Liquid floor product or paste wax?

    Thanks!

    JoAnn – Lancaster County, PA 8)

    #155784
    Anonymous
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    JoAnn,

    Yeah, it has been 10 yrs since our training. If I remember right, believe your bday is sometime around now, so if my memory is correct, Happy Birthday.

    Bar floor eh? Yikes. Yeah, that would sound about right for process I think. You are definitely going to require some agitation and I would pull out the old pads for it if you are dealing with a bar as I’m sure they will probably not ever be white again after this job. I’ve worked in and been in enough bars to know how much crude you will be dealing with. Also, look out for spots that can snag the pads and potentially damage their wood floor if a snag did happen. Charge accordingly and you may want to try and see if you can get them on a monthly plan or something like that. I know most bars have a cleaning crew that comes in regularly so they may balk at it, but something to consider depending on the clientele they are going after. As for product, we stick with the liquid floor product, but so far we have only done residential with wood. From what I have been told from hardwood floor installers, they hate wax. It is my understanding that once you use wax, you always have to use wax. I think the wax would probably protect it better/longer and make it shine more, but I know it can also make it slick, which no business wants people falling on slick floors. I am not sure if the new wax HB offers is as slick as the old one, so just something to consider, especially since bars have liquids being spilled on the floor as well. As always, these are just my opinion. You may want to hit up Cody or Big John and get their 2 cents as well.

    #155785
    Anonymous
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    The super fine dust, dirt and soil that gets on the wood floors will over time, create many thousands of micro scratches that will dull the floors. These scratches usually cannot be seen but do a tremendous amount of damage to the finish. The best solution is not to let them get to that point. The average homeowner doesn’t clean the floor on a regular daily or even weekly basis. And as I tell my customers, wood floor require more daily maintainance than carpets do.They need to be dusted or (swiffered) daily to remove the offending soil.

    #155786
    Anonymous
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    Thanks, Dave! Big John says de-waxer and blue/black pads instead of 101 and thin white. We’ll see what works if we get the job (probably a combination). I was a little short on the age…pre-civil war I understand. WOW..imagine the feet that trod those planks! Unfortunately, they are also considering replacement. I sure hope we can convince them to drop that option!

    Good memory..not my birthday, but my #1 daughter is an “April fool”!

    #155781
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Hi all! New to the Franchise, just getting going after training. I own OKC, OK…..I have a market for hardwood floors in my area. It seems there are several ways that everyone is doing the floors, some use wax, some use wood floor cleaner, some use multi surface cleaner. Can anyone that does this a lot give me a step by step that will give the best but more importantly CONSISTENT CONFIDENT results…….Thanks Dave Ashton,,,,,,,

    #155787
    Anonymous
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    @ok01 wrote:

    Hi all! New to the Franchise, just getting going after training. I own OKC, OK…..I have a market for hardwood floors in my area. It seems there are several ways that everyone is doing the floors, some use wax, some use wood floor cleaner, some use multi surface cleaner. Can anyone that does this a lot give me a step by step that will give the best but more importantly CONSISTENT CONFIDENT results…….Thanks Dave Ashton,,,,,,,

    Just wanted to bump this post, Dave How is it going for you?

    #155788
    hbottumwa
    Participant

    At training last week I learned that after cleaning the floor (sweep/mop etc.) spray down de-waxer buff with the blue pad, apply the polish (and wait until fully dry) and buff again with a clean blue pad for best results.

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