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  • in reply to: Corporate Balance Sheet #156019
    tx45
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    And I agree with you Gordon that EZNet is better than nothing because that’s what the last company was…nothing. But I still feel that EZnet is still sub par. Are we settling because its cheap and brings a little more business or should we look for top notch and bring in a lot of business?

    Honestly, my post last night was more about the corporate site (franchise sales) and not individual operators but I’m glad to hear your guys are seeing an increase.

    in reply to: Corporate Balance Sheet #156017
    tx45
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    There is definitely a lot to think about after reading the June news letter and this thread. I’m sure I’ll have more opinions after we have our S.O. meeting Wednesday, but one thing right out of the gates I’ll comment on is our image. I have felt, for years, that our technological insight and web development/image/presence has been years behind the competition. I chose to move away from the corporate site a few years back and promote my own URL because honestly heavensbest.com is outdated and looks like a small local business (granted my site hasnt been much better, but I’m investing a lot of money into rebuilding it and making cutting edge and current). There is no way we are going to attract high quality individuals/franchise sales using the current corp site so I’m very glad to hear there is talk of updating the site! Here’s where I may ruffle a few feathers….EZ net Tools IS NOT the company to use for this in my opinion. I’m sorry but I think their designs and abilities are not up to what is being produced these days.

    Here are some examples of what I consider modern, trendy, current sites:

    http://www.currenthometechnologies.com

    http://abovecorporation.com/

    Now compare those to eznet sites:

    http://www.eznettools.com/

    http://christensenbodyshop.com/

    Pretty big difference in my opinion…just my two cents.

    in reply to: Let’s work together guys #154048
    tx45
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    Just joined up on Facebook. We need more operators to join. If you have a Facebook account, join up it’s easy.

    in reply to: February 23, 2009 Phone Conference Call #153307
    tx45
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    I guess I don’t understand. Diminished returns? Not all of us are willing to go along with whatever Cody says. Some of us feel the need to stand up and speak our minds when we don’t agree or when we need to protect our investments/livelihoods. We have presented a very profitable idea to corporate and for Cody to pass it over and continue on with his proposal would be extremely unfortunate.

    Bryan, to address something in one of your prior posts. If an operator is not complying with the new fee than they would be in breech of contract and, yes, could potentially get themselves chopped off. That has been one of this franchises major down falls – no one wants to chop anyone off(myself included) but there comes a time when it is necessary. Also, we may not have it “all figured out” but at least we’re trying be constructive rather than make negative remarks.

    Someone has said this before, but another option for corporate is to consider selling off another state or two to come up with some operating capitol.

    No one has it ALL figured out. I’m simply saying this plan is far better than the astronomical rise in area fees with nothing to show for it other than “hope and change”.

    in reply to: February 23, 2009 Phone Conference Call #153305
    tx45
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    Corporate is proposing an area fee increase that they would collect on anyway. Problematic? For them maybe, but they are proposing to collect the fee anyways. As for state owners being held liable. Again, corporate is getting the money so my feeling is it should be their responsibility to keep ops current. A huge reason for this new ad fee is to increase the staff at corporate, so I’m not sure why the “extra administrative work” would even be a subject?

    in reply to: February 23, 2009 Phone Conference Call #153303
    tx45
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    After reading the post from Justin along with a few other state owners, I have re-considered my initial thought on population based pricing for the Internet/advertising fee. An operator in Kentucky pays the same price as I do in Washington for a gallon of 101. why should this be different? It can be explained as a required tool/service. It’s tangible. A flat, across the board, advertising fee is a good idea. $50 a month for the first year and $100 a month from there out.

    I also agree with With Laura on the fact that it would be nice to hear from corporate and alleviate this “limbo” feeling some of us are experiencing. Cody had said nothing would happen until 2010 but it still leaves a lot of uncertainty. This is weighing on me heavily and will make it difficult to sell a new franchise multiple areas with a clear conscience. Ultimately the decision comes down from Cody and how he feels the company should be run and the changes he feels need to be made. I just hope he takes into consideration the fallout he could potentially face if he proceeds forward with his previously outlined plan.

    Cody, You and I have talked at length about some of corporates wants and needs and I support some of those. This proposal of a mandatory advertising fee (which would give each operator a landing page or micro-site) is an extremely good one and will generate needed income to hire staff and make some necessary upgrades. Remember we spoke of starting smaller than you initially wanted, but sooner? This is that plan, which is actually not that small (approx. $200,000 the first year and $400,000 from then on). I ask you to please consider starting with this Internet/advertising proposal now, and put this uncertainty to rest. I feel that, at this point, it is beginning to jeopardize a few of your relationships as well as the goodwill you have with some of your state owners.

    in reply to: February 23, 2009 Phone Conference Call #153289
    tx45
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    One other point I forgot to mention. The Internet is not as widely used in some parts of the country as it is in others. In Kentucky, for instance, the Internet is not near as strong as it is in my area – The land of Microsoft, the Pacific Northwest. Another reason to consider pricing differences.

    in reply to: February 23, 2009 Phone Conference Call #153288
    tx45
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    I can stand behind Randy’s proposal of incorporating the “.us” site into the “.com” site 100% as long as the majority of the revenue would going to Mco. I previously posted against the idea of your Nate’s site being used, as it cuts out Mco, but Randy’s post has made me realize that the collaboration of his sons site with Mco could be much more efficient. I have a micro-site on the “.us” site as a secondary page to see what it can do. So far it has not been a big producer but that is mainly because it is a secondary site and I don’t direct a lot of traffic to it. I think that with some tweaking it could be a very good site as well as a useful tool. If all of the operators where to use it, the traffic to the site would be enormous and would certainly cause me to change it from my secondary site to my primary one. I have been calling for an “operator only/marketing” site for years along with many other operators and now it could potentially be here. I understand big franchises generate big revenue, product orders, brand recognition, etc. I run a fairly successful franchise myself, however, I have to side with Dan Burkhard and Dennis in that charging smaller franchises the same as larger ones mainly will benefit the larger franchises. An example would be: My brother Jeremy owns the majority chunk of the Portland Oregon market (about 700,000 population). I own the neighboring county (about 400,000 pop.) Any form of advertising we co-op on is divided by the percentage of pop. because that is the only way to make it square. You have to consider the exposure and potential sales percentages. How many more people are exposed to the ad in his larger area as opposed to my area with less people. That gives him greater sales potential. I support implementing a mandatory Internet program of some kind, whether it’s Randy’s sons site could be a very good option, but I think the price/fee should be population based.

    in reply to: February 23, 2009 Phone Conference Call #153276
    tx45
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    I agree with Laura. I would like to hear from some of the other state owners in this matter? I would be curious to hear what a few select operators, who are not state owners, would have to say about the current proposal of raising their area fees also?

    I think at this point it is important that us state owners who care, really get behind and push a few of the ideas that have been presented. As Dan, Greg and myself have mentioned, a required landing page/Internet advertising fund (whether it’s $30 or $100 a month) is the best idea so far to stimulate income($10000 to $30000+ a month) into corporate. It would require Justin, and possibly Holly, at corporate to tackle the task of building 300+ pages, but it is my understanding that a template has already been designed or is near completion. It could take a few months to implement the plan but I feel it’s a good one and one worth pushing. I also like the idea of a 5% increase across the board on all products. This idea could take affect immediately. I also support the idea of only giving 8-10 gallons of cleaner in a schedule A while keeping the price of a franchise the same as it is currently. This would make a sale more profitable for corporate as well.

    There have been many great ideas posted which could greatly increase revenue into corporate as well as provide the funds necessary recruit and hire the much needed capable staff. I am anxious to hear from Cody and see if he is in fact going to listen to his state owners/investors and restructure his current proposal.

    in reply to: February 23, 2009 Phone Conference Call #153272
    tx45
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    Okay so I’m done chewing and ready to spit. Without question, improvements need to be made at the corporate level. It’s amazing that Cody and his very limited staff have taken the franchise this far. I spoke with Cody at length today about many different topics and was able to get a much clearer understanding of his position and where he would like to see things eventually progress to. He pointed out some very critical issues. From our conversation one of the biggest issues, I perceived, is our contracts. The contracts, in my opinion need to be re-vamped. There is a lot of “grey area” in our contracts that need to be made black and white. What happens if Cody sells? There is no firm language in our individual contracts that protect us from a new owner coming in and cutting state owners out of product payments, royalty fees, portions of franchise sales, etc. I believe Cody when he told me today he wants to protect everyone from something like that. There is no language in the contracts that would allow us to implement new programs into the franchise for example an “advertising fund” or a “contract maintenance fee”. We also spoke about the need to hire in capable staff. Maybe a General Manager to oversee the day to day duties. A controller, to handle the daily book keeping and accounting tasks. An experienced sales and marketing executive with graphic design and strong Internet advertising skills.

    So, how do we proceed? How do we help M-co increase it’s revenue to make some necessary changes? Here are a few ideas and thoughts I have come up with along with rough numbers:

    1. Enforce contracts. Operators who are not in compliance or are not making their payments or for whatever reason are not following their contracts-chop them off. These operators hurt the growth of the franchise.

    2. Create a reasonable processing & handling fee on all product orders. $20 x 100 (?) orders a month = $2000 new income monthly

    3. Consider a temporary change in the payment percentage of 101. This is a big one but I personally would be willing to give up 10% of my half of the 101 rather than raise royalties on my franchises. $6 a gallon x 300(?) month = $1800 new income monthly

    4. Increase the price of 101 by 5% and only corporate receive the revenue from the increase. $3 x 300 gallons a month = $900 new income monthly

    5. As Greg similarly mentioned, create some kind of a mandatory web site fee which would give each operator their own landing page on the Heavens Best website. Charge a reasonable monthly fee. This gives each operator something for their money. Sorry Randy, I know your son has been developing a web site for this but that is money corporate needs to be taking advantage of. $40 x 320 franchises a month = $12800 new income monthly

    6. Eliminate special product offers such as buy 5 gallons of 101 and receive a 6th free. There is no competition when it comes to product sales. They are going to buy it regardless. Probably a minimal savings, but still a savings.

    7. Begin charging for all of the pre-designed ads, pictures, and graphic design work that is currently available online for free. make it cheaper than if they were to have it done by an outside company, but still charge for it. Profitable?

    8. Raise royalty fees responsibly. A $20 per area fee is reasonable as a one time increase with a 3 area cap (no more than a $60 per month increase for franchises with 3 or more area fees). 30% of the increase to the state owner, 70% to corporate. that’s $14-42 per franchise, per month, per amount of fees currently being paid = $7000+(?) new income monthly.

    These are a few revenue generating ideas, much smaller than what Cody has proposed but, when you put them together they add up. Some of these ideas can be implemented immediately. Some will require changes to be made to the contracts. Where does that initial legal fees money come from? This is where I believe corporate needs to invest its own money, or borrow it if necessary, to restructure contracts and hire new staff immediately. Once the proper documentation is put into place the new income listed above (roughly $23000-25000 a month, $300,000 a year) should be more than enough to satisfy a few new employee’s wages along with contribute to some of the other corporate needs.

    I truly believe that there needs to be a plan in place sooner than later so we can get this franchise back on track by re-structuring contracts, implementing a collaboration of revenue generating ideas as well as finding qualified people to take over some of the critical workload at corporate. however, I cannot stand behind the current plan which charges operators astronomical long term increases without giving them much more than a “hope and change” type outlook in return. I believe if we look at the options I and others have proposed we can come up with a more reasonable solution that is fair to everyone.

    in reply to: February 23, 2009 Phone Conference Call #153266
    tx45
    Participant

    I think I need to take a breath and chew on this a bit, but my initial reaction is it tastes really really bad!!! I hope Cody meant it when he said this is a “proposal”. This could be very catastrophic for many of us.

    in reply to: February 23, 2009 Phone Conference Call #153250
    tx45
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    Ditto Jim and Thank You! With the words you posted I may actually sleep for the first night in days.

    in reply to: February 23, 2009 Phone Conference Call #153244
    tx45
    Participant

    Great ideas. I want to play devil’s advocate on a few of them. A problem I see with forcing operators to buy a gallon of 101 per area fee is that not all areas are equal. There is no set population guidelines per area fee. For example, an area in Kentucky is 30,000 population. This is because Kentucky does not have as many areas to sell and is not as densely populated as a state like California where area fees could be based upon 75,000-100,000 population (just an example). Basically, someone in Kentucky who has 5 areas is not going to need the same amount of cleaner as someone in California who has 5 areas.

    Having separate web sites for corporate and operators is currently in the works. This has been a topic of discussion for a few years now. http://www.heavensbest.us is a site that is being developed and I think could be a very good tool for operators.

    As for putting spotters on the shelves of grocery stores, I spoke with Cody about this a few years back. I have an aunt who is the CEO of a large grocery chain here in the Northwest called QFC. They are owned by Kroger. Using her as an in, I was relatively sure I good get our spotters on their shelves throughout the Northwest but Cody had said it was not a possibility because in the contracts it states corporate will not sell product in an operators territory. I, like Greg, would like to see this change. I find it hard to believe that an operator would not want spotter bottles on the shelves in his local grocery stores, hardware stores, furniture stores, etc. Doing this nationwide would be huge for brand name recognition.

    We all know that businesses raise their prices – we all have done it at one point or another. This apparently is that time for Corporate. However, I personally cannot afford to allow my franchise to take the financial hit that has been proposed. It will drive many, if not all, of my franchises to either sell or walk away. Some of my franchises are already struggling to pay their current fees. I would still like to know ,from Cody, how many areas are currently being paid on nationwide and how many more are still yet to be paid?

    in reply to: February 23, 2009 Phone Conference Call #153240
    tx45
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    Bryan, I appreciate your willingness to come up with ideas. However, four areas fees is $320. Double that it’s $640. That’s a van payment and the monthly insurance premium put together. That’s 10 gallons of cleaner. That’s huge! The problem is its still a 50% increase and then another additional 50% increase (100%!!!). I didn’t know we were part of an HMO. Seriously though, HMO’s don’t raise rates this astronomically. A single 25% increase is huge, but I would much rather see that kind of an increase over 100%. A single 25% increase would generate an additional $20 per fee being paid. As an example, out of 1226 areas, If there are currently 700 fees being paid than that equates to $14,000 a month. That’s an extra $168,000 a year to corporate. What is the number of fees currently being paid franchise wide and how many are still yet to be paid? As more area fees come current the amount of $$$ will automatically increase as well. I think these are two questions that we need answered before we can effectively discuss what an appropriate percentage increase could be.
    I want to re-address something I said previously. If this is, in part, a move to force under performing operators to sell off a portion of their large area than it is unfair. To me it seems like we’d be punishing the masses for a few slackers or ,more so, a few deals made by state owners who now don’t like the deal anymore and want more. You can’t sell something and then force the buyer to give it back when you’re not happy with the way they are using it. This is simply an issue of re-negotiating their contracts at time of renewal.

    in reply to: February 23, 2009 Phone Conference Call #153237
    tx45
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    DB.
    In Kentucky an area is every 30,000 of population except for one city that corporate sold four years ago at 100,000 per area fee.

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