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I was digging into my long term memory today and recalled Cody saying QB can be used as a pre-spray, used the same way FAE would be. So, I mixed 2 ozs. of QB with a gal. of hot water (great for dissolving) and sprayed the high traffic areas. I let it dwell for 10+ min., then sprayed 101 w/ OD added. This method removes the chance of acidic products cancelling out the high ph advantage of QB (as dirtbag mentioned). This also opens a great opportunity to add OD or CB to your 101 to give the carpet an acid rinse, nuetralizing the ph (as devlin mentioned). Oh, by the way, the results were fantastic!
My son and I had a very dirty rental carpet to clean.
I have been a big fan of FAE. Haven’t used QB too much.
We split one room in half spraying QB on one half and FAE on the other half. We made sure not to cross over the middle “line” with the buffer and pads.
2 scoops of FAE with one gallon of HOT water on one half and 3 scoops of QB in a 2.5 gallon container with 12 oz of 101 and 2 oz of orange deodorizer on the other half. 15 minute dwell time for both.
At first sparaying, the FAE side looked better. Right before buffing with the Dirt napper, then woven turf pad then thin pad the QB side looked better.
After buffing both sides I was surprised that the QB side was noticeably cleaner than the FAE side.
Lew as Brian mentioned it can aslo be used as a pre-spray. I have found that it is more effective this way. I usually mix 2-3 ounces of QB per one gallon of hot water. Spray it down. Let dwell 10+ minutes. Spray over with 101. Buff it out. What I also like about QB is that if you make too much of it, you can simply pour the rest into your 101 (unlike FAE).
Rick,
The amount of OD you would need to mix in would depend on the amount of QB you mix in initially. I wouldn’t think you would need to mix too much (2-3 ozs?) Here are some articles I found that touch on the subject. Couldn’t find one I really liked that got down to the nitty gritty of it.
http://www.cleanfax.com/article.asp?IndexID=6636719
http://www.cleanfreak.com/procedures/basic_understanding_of_ph.htm
http://www.baneclene.com/articles/ph.htmlAlso, just my observation, but in my experience I have noticed that OD is very hard on equipment pumps. I have had to replace some pumps, and since I’ve limited my use of OD in my 101, I have not had as many problems. Whenever I use OD anymore in my 101, I try to run straight water through the line afterwards. We should probably be doing this no matter what at the end of the day, but I only do it when OD is involved.
Interesting with the QB and water as a prespray. Won’t “expire” like FAE, but does leave carpet PH higher. Something I may have to experiment with like the mad chemist Sutton (and others) appears to be doing. Brian, you mentioned testing PH of carpet before you clean. That is something that is recommended to do for wool rugs. Wool rugs can sometimes “hold PH” from past cleaners. So, if a previous cleaner used a high PH cleaner on a wool rug and didn’t rinse it, it will remain high. As we all know, high PH with wool is not good. Then, if you come along and use what would be a safe PH normally, that additionally PH may take the overall PH of the rug over the levels of safe for wool and cause damage (and unfortunately you would be the one replacing the rug even though the other person in theory caused it).
Correct Evan
“Wilson I think he meant 12oz’s of concentrate”
Thank-you.
I don’t know much about pH when it comes to carpet, but I do know that it is critical when dealing with the human body. You want it to be neutral or slightly alkaline.
Is this the case when we’re finished with carpet?
Is “most” carpet acidic when we go to clean it?
Thanks!!
i have used both also this way. i always use very hot water with both.i do not use o.d. with quick boost ever because it does affect the ph. level. i have noticed also that fae,and quick boost have been successful on odor also before i had to use od in the 101.but i have usually always followed with od after either quick boost or fae on the smelly ones.
There are stories out there that most carpet soil is acidic, which is why most cleaning products (see Quick boost, Fast Acting Enzyme, etc) are high PH as they should clean faster and better that way. I did recently see an article (can’t remember where) that debated this philosophy and said no substantial proof is out there to back up this claim that most carpet soil is acidic. If soil is acidic, it will attract to it’s opposite (which is an alkaline), so if you leave the carpet at a high pH, it will in theory attract soil faster. Ideally, I believe you should leave it neutral if possible, maybe acidic. High pH carpet will often feel stiff and crunchy, whereas low pH should feel softer.
i do agree with all that being said.we also need to be aware that higher ph,i believe leaves more residue.so if we are using all these dif. products,which means more water,proably longer drying time,could this pose somewhat of a residue?
Funny, I got into a complex where they were using a “steamer”. I noticed the carpet was really crunchy. It figured it was either cheap “plastic” carpet or had alot of residue. Cleaned an apartment and my vac’s were full of what I thought might be sheetrock dust. Asked her afterwards but no sheetrock work has been done recently. I wonder if it’s residue from the “steamer”? 🙂
Got an old HB pH chart here. So do I want to make the solution as alkaline as possible for a filthy apartment? I don’t really have any complaints thus far, just looking for an even better form of cleaning solution.
you will run across this periodicly.it is the residue left over from their cleaning solution.like dried up soap residue
New idea about Quick Boost.
Quick Boost is difficult to dissolve in cold water or cold cleaning solution. Since hot water is not always available, I decided to create a “liquid concentrate” of the quick boost.
Fill a gallon jug 3/4 full of hot water.
Pour a full canister of granulated quick boost in the jug and shake until dissolved.
Finish filling the jug to the top with water.You now have 128 ozs. of liquid concentrate.
It takes 4 ozs. of liquid concentrate to equal 1 oz of dry quick boost.
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